Well the new guard codex is coming out soon, so my Grot Rebellion army need a redo. At the moment I’m only looking to rewrite my list with what models I have using the new Codex at GW.

HQ
70 – Command Squad: Vox Caster & Regiment Standard
(Stick near the infantry squads and bark orders while avoiding enemy fire)

TROOPS
65 – Infantry Command: Vox Caster, Missile Launcher & Platoon Standard.

85 – Infantry Squad: Vox Caster, Missile Launcher & Plasma Gun

85 – Infantry Squad: Vox Caster, Missile Launcher & Plasma Gun

85 – Infantry Squad: Vox Caster, Missile Launcher & Plasma Gun
(These Guys will form the main firebase for the army)

130 – Grenadier Squad: 10 Vets and 2 Plasma Guns
(Advance to take objectives)

80 – Penal Legion Squad
(Either Advance with the Grenaiders or counter charge assault units depending on their skill roll and the opposing army)

FAST ATTACK
99 – 9 Rough Riders
(Same as my last army stay behind cover and out of line of sight before charging an enemy assault unit before it hits my main force, or go on the offensive)

145 – Hellhound Or Chem Dog (Poison): Extra Armour
(This is a tough decision due to the ‘special nature’ of the conversion I can have it represent either a Hellhound or a Chem Dog both will be used both for offence and defence )

90 – 2 Scout Sentinels: Missile Launchers
(Outflank and shoot the side or rear armour of enemy vehicles)

HEAVY SUPPORT
190 – Leman Russ: 3 Heavy Bolters & Camo Netting

185 – Leman Russ Demolisher: Heavy Bolter & Camo Netting

190 – Manticore: Heavy Bolter & Camo Netting
(BOOM! LOL)

Total Pts: 1499
Total No: 69 (6)
Total Kill Pts: 13 ( 10 )

Your thoughts, is it a solid list?

Just to let you guys know what other models I have available are another Grenadier and Infantry Squad, an Armoured Sentinel with a Lascannon.

Any comments at all?

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I got the new book yesterday, im seeing alot of static firepower armies about and i dont think theyre good at all. Mech it up in my opinion!

I have to agree with Lee, 5th ed is all about mobility. It will only take one combat unit to hit your lines and roll up it.

And what are you going to do about objective missions?

I seem to recall they made chimeras quite nasty, but I don't remember how. You could stick some of them in.

Theyve got 5 firepoints, front armour 12 and a multilaser(Str6,3 shots, 36" range) Valkyries are much better transports and are more effective but they cost 35 quid each :>

I got the new guard codex on Saturday. The obvious choice for me is as follows:

Straken, 3 Meltaguns and a Flamer, Astropath in a Vendetta with the added Heavy Bolters - 300

Veterans, 3 Plasma, Powerfist, Democharge and Meltabombs in a Vendetta with the added Heavy Bolters - 300 (x4)

1500 points of simple filth.

Very expensive filth with that many Vendettas, then again you are a necron player who brought 9 tomb spyders

The list i wrote was kinda similar: Primaris psyker, 3 vet squads with 3 flamers in each and 3x3 vendettas....thats 27 twinlas a turn plus, flamers for anti-horde OR a chimera list: 2 primaris psykers, 3 psyker squads in chimeras, 5 vet squads in chimeras...8 chimeras and the psykers are awesome imo.Plenty of dirt in this new book Adam

The list i wrote was kinda similar: Primaris psyker, 3 vet squads with 3 flamers in each and 3x3 vendettas....thats 27 twinlas a turn plus, flamers for anti-horde OR a chimera list: 2 primaris psykers, 3 psyker squads in chimeras, 5 vet squads in chimeras...8 chimeras and the psykers are awesome imo.Plenty of dirt in this new book Adam

I agree, vets and valks are the way to go for tiournaments.

and if you can't afford valks then I guess you go mech instead?

If you want to keep costs down and have a competitive army then id suggest to go with your Chaos and just get another Lashprince and a few Oblits. As for the Imperial Guard its going to be expensive what ever you do im afraid as your army is too Static the next best thing to Valks would be the Chimera armoured assault imo.

I’ve got a friend with a Space Marine scout army visiting in 2 weeks and he wants to fight my guard army with the new codex, however I haven’t got a lot of time to make the big changes that I want to it so I’ve put together this list with what I’ve got.
Hopefully it’s up for the challenge against a marine scout army.

HQ
172 – Command Squad: Bolt Pistol, Regiemental Standard, 2 Bodyguards, Master Of The Ordance, Master Of The Fleet and Camo Cloaks.
(My mates gonna love my master of the fleet)

ELITE
65 – Marbo
(one big distraction coming up)

TROOPS
130 – Veteran Squad (forward sentries): Missile Launcher and Plasma Gun.
130 – Veteran Squad (forward sentries): Missile Launcher and Plasma Gun.
130 – Veteran Squad (forward sentries): Missile Launcher and Plasma Gun.
130 – Veteran Squad (forward sentries): Missile Launcher and Plasma Gun.
(These guys are my main firebase, they were my original infantry but I’ve made them veterans for this army)

130 – Veteran Squad (Grenadiers): 2 Plasma Guns.
130 – Veteran Squad (Grenadiers): 2 Plasma Guns.
(Advance forward to take an objective on my side of the board)

FAST ATTACK
[B]140 – 3 Scout Sentinels: 2 Missile Launchers, 1 Hunter Seeker and 1 Lascannon.(Outflank and tank hunter what tank he brings to support his scouts)

140 – Hellhound: Extra Armour(Fighting a scout army, seems suitable)

HEAVY SUPPORT
190 - Leman Russ Battle Tank: 3 Heavy Bolters and Camo Netting.
(Support my main firebase)

Total Pts: 1497
Total No: 70 (4)
Kill Pts: 12

Well what do you think?

I’m not normally one for designing my army lists to deal with a particular army but I need more time to come up with a good effective standard list.