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Periculosus · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: Club Challenge Empire?

Well, the skaven did OK at Open War.

Beat one VC army, and was doing OK in the first turn against the second until in turn 2 my Seer miscast and died (double 1), then got masacred. In my first game I got a draw against a template happy Chaos Dwarf army. 5 War Machines all with templates!

So, after seeing that about 25% of the field was VCs I need an army that can cope with them, and also have a shot against others.

So how about this?

Arch Lector. Heavy Armour, Shield of the Gorgon, Speculum and Relic. With a 3+ (combat) save and 4+ ward with any opponent in a challenge only getting one attack, could make for a good unit leader.

Warrior Priest. Mounted with lots of armour, casket of sorcery to try and steal some of those pesky spells.

Warrior Priest. On foot with heavy armour and great weapon. Icon of Magus to be immune to fear. Maybe in a detachment to ensure the counter charge?

Battle Mage. Level 2. Rod of Power. Need all the extra dice I can lay my hands on. Cast a spell with 2, store 2. Giving 9 dispel dice in total.

Core

20 Flagellants. Unbreakable. That'll do.
20 Swordsmen, standard and musician. 6 Halberds and 6 hand gunners
25 Spears standard and musician. 6 Halberds and 6 hand gunners
10 Hand gunners with hockland
10 Hand gunners with hockland (going mage shooting)

Special
Great Cannon
Great Cannon (Bring that Vargulf over here please)
5 Inner Circle Knights, full command, war banner (Mounted Warrior Priest bodyguard)

Rare
Helblaster (For shooting at stuff)

What do you think?
3 Solid Infantry blocks. Good magic defence. Good shooting. A little light on support units.

Gareth · Orc Boy Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 105

If it were me I would try and find room for a unit of Great swords, along with Icon of Magnus bearer. Stubborn and immune to fear is good. Better with a BSB but then that eats into your magic defence.

Gareth

Periculosus · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject:

I could exchange the 25 spear unit for a 15 man Great sword unit, but is it worth it?

The spears with hatred re-roll give me about 5 kills on ghouls, 4-5 on 4+ save skellies. The great swords 3 kills on ghouls, 4-5 on the skellies, but are slighty more resiliant.

You pay for the stubborn, but the spears have a better chance of winning the combat. I may try both options at the club and see which I prefer.

How I wish a Warrior Priest could carry the Battle Standard! But I need my magical defence.

Iskard Lustviper · Orc Boy Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 141

I'd try to find the space and points for a unit of Outriders, overall, it seems quite small for an Empire army.

englishdemon · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:49 am Post subject:

i could give you a game against a magic heavy army if you want? i could bring the 5 models or dust of my demonic legion so you can test your resilience against a strong magic phase?

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Periculosus · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject:

I don't own any Outriders yet, and I haev to paint all the flagellants.

Once I have got all that done, I'll play test it.

Cheers,

Pete

Periculosus · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject:

Too light on support units.

Couldn't defend my flanks, and a couple of poor rolls robbed me of both my blocks.

Got a draw, which was lucky as I blew the head off Mike's general in turn 1. However, if I went with extra cannons I could try and blow up the VC many times.

I prefer playing with the skaven, and they are competative enough to do OK. I was, after all, unlucky in the game I was masacred in, and in a five game event should be able to balance that out more.

Skaven it is, then I don't need to paint any Empire!

Cheers,

Pete