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Lee
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:41 pm |
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Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:35 pm Posts: 439 Location: Lincoln, UK
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I dont suppose anybody would care to do a writeup on their games?
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Periculosus
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:08 pm |
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Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:01 pm Posts: 995 Location: Sheffield
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A tournament that can't get the scoring right? I don't see why you guys make such a fuss about going. Even I don't make that much of a mess of the scoring at our events.
Try the campaign weekends and the Tempus Fugitives events. Great fun.
_________________ WFB: Dark Elves, Empire, High Elves, Chaos Mortals, Lizardmen, Orcs&Goblins, Skaven and Vampire Counts.
40K: Marines (Blood Drinkers, Mentors) Orks, Eldar, Tau and Chaos Marines.
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Iskard Lustviper
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:48 pm |
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Game 1 vs High Elves From memory, he had a Noble on a chicken with that bloody multi-shot bow, a couple of L2s (One with extra spell, t'other with the knows everything item) 3 scrolls between them, as I found out later- boring gimp! Pair of Boltthrowers 10 archers, 12 or so White Lions and 3 lots of 5 Dragon Princes & a Lion Chariot. Oh well, it's get over there and hope I can absorb the damage time. One lot of DPs had a magic item that gave them all magical attacks, so that's goodbye one lot of Dryads, his chicken rider slowed down one set of Treekin , plus the General, but they eventually duffed up the White Lions, the chariot with a touch of help from another bunch of DPs screwed over more Dryads, Law of Fire and Boltthrowers did for the Treeman & a unit of Treekin. I killed his archers, a few Kerniggets, wounded his chicken and basically couldn't roll a 5 or 6 to save my skin (Or bark!) Minor Victory to the High Elves. Game 2 Bretonnians, oh joy! More fast stuff. Pretty normal set up, one unit of Archers, one of Skirmishing archers, KoR, KE, (units of 6) 9 QK, 6 GK, 6 Squires. Hero on Peg, Hero on Horse & Bint on horse. I stated creaping up through the woods and around the edges, ran his Squires off the board with some Dryads, beat up his skirmishers, duffed up a few KoR, he killed my Treeman (Virtue of KB Large Target!) after Treeman had plucked his Peg. Again, I couldn't roll a 5 or 6! Result, a draw, but I'm on the losing end of it. Game 3, VC "Oh Joy" I thought! No, I didn't. Luckily, he was hopeless, very timid and forgot that Black Knights can charge through a wood without penalty. He had 2 Vamps, (One on a Nightmare) Corpse Cart, 20 Graveguard with White Lord ASB, a 6-base unit of Spirit Host and a couple of units of Zombies, 5 Wraiths with a Banshee. All this lot were huddled in one corner, with GGs & 1 of the Zombie units on a hill. I considered just going for a table quarter and pick off the support units win, but eventually gave him a good kicking! I whittled his Spirit host down with a unit of Dryads, before they eventually broke & he pursued into one of the Treekin units. Bounce! He'd raised into his Zombies, but the Dryads eventually shredded both units, the Treeman killed his mounted Vamp (10 hits from a Strangleroot stand & shoot, when he charged me! The Treeman, then wandered off around his GG, to have a word with the Corpse Cart. Dryads took out his Banshee & escort, then ripped up the other Zombies. His Black Knights stuffed one unit of Dryads, then fell foul of the other Treekin. He was left with just the GG and the characters with them. Result a minor win for me!
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Orky James
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:14 am |
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I have found this tournament to be poorly organised. Mike Purvis by all accounts had to point out that he had been diddled. I agree that they want to do things differently but I have said it before and I will again the GT scoring is a superior system and better run. I would suggest that we train for a GT heat next year. Now before I hear everyone go it is to expensive! Have a think about it you have a year to save 50 quid now thats a battle force you won't be buying this year bo ho. Ok so you going to need transport and a Hotel. But you will find it money well spent and experience a proper tournament. You get all your grub and get to do all weekend what you love best in the world. All for Saving a pound a week Laters J
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Lee
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:32 pm |
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Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:35 pm Posts: 439 Location: Lincoln, UK
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Who/what was first and second?Quote: A tournament that can't get the scoring right? I don't see why you guys make such a fuss about going. Even I don't make that much of a mess of the scoring at our events.
Try the campaign weekends and the Tempus Fugitives events. Great fun. because OW was the only tournament outside Gobstyks I went to this year, all of the others are either a bit too far or a bit too expensive. I never reallly been to a campaign weekend before, in 40K only tournaments in 40K really interest me, as for Fantasy I maybe interested in a couple of light years when my rats are painted lol Thanks, Lee
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bubbachop
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:32 pm |
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Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:43 pm Posts: 208
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Maybe they pulled the same trick with you (Tony) as they did with me, "forgetting" to add in painting scores.
Fair placement for all of us might have seen Gobstyks up in the top 3. Mind you, speaking of taking credit for thing which are not your own work, the Gobstyks 40K team did rely on some high quality mercenaries to put it in 4th place.
James, be nice to Adam. It can only be a good thing that Gobstyks is recognised as housing some top-notch hobbists. I just wish I had more time to finish some of my prettier projects.
_________________ I have chosen to include on my signature that if you agree to play against me you are more than likely to face the most diabolical filth imaginable.
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:55 pm |
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| Savage Orc Warlord |
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:09 am Posts: 953
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It wasn't jusy you guys, one of our mercenaries also had a problem, scoring 0 for his painting, when he blatantly left it out on display with his army list and entry number.
_________________ He's a semi aquatic, egg laying mammal of action.
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Proiteus
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:30 pm |
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Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:28 am Posts: 368 Location: Lincoln
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Yeah Toad & Mike were given a 0 for painting as for pip there is scores seems right 23 out of 25 for painting you got 48pts.
Also heres a summary of my games...
First Round: Vs Tau Capture & Control / Spearhead This game went very smoothly I cornered the Tau army in the corner and slowly destroyed his army bit by bit. I did a suicide flamer bang in the centre of his firebase, direct hit with the deep strike and did massive damage to 2 battlesuit squads, 12 fire warriors and a broadside.
One Horror squad rolled a 3 on the mishap table so my opponent was allowed to place the squad where he wanted; funnily enough he put the squad on the other side of the board in my deployment zone so I ran them over and sat them on my objective.
The Changling really shone in this game in 3 turns I used the changling’s ability to force an enemy unit to fire on another enemy unit. My opponent was terrified of failing his leadership test so he always held his fire on the large squad fire warriors squads I targets and on the 3rd turn he tried to fight the illusion and failed and filled one of his own units with holes lol.
Machine of the Game: The Mastermind (Changling) Result: Major Victory
Second Round: Vs Daemons Annihilation / Dawn of War At first I was excited as this was a dark Mechancius army with conversions featuring conversions using the Forgeworld renegades and included the plague drones as well using them as Soul grinders.
Sadly I had first turn so I had to setup my army with no enemy units on the board to target. Luckily he failed his waves roll so his 2nd wave turned up with was all the plaguebearers with a squad of flamers and fiends. I got a few shots up with the units that were in range but sadly that was the only easy part.
On the 2nd turn the heavy hitters showed up: 2 Soul grinders and Kag’rath. Throughout the game I made no end of mistakes on of which was forgetting to run my Plaguebearers after they arrived so they got blasted with both ordnance and flamer templates from Kag’rath before being charged by other Plaguebearers.
It just went wrong because everything was very resilient and my luck was awful throughout the game. In the end all I could do was retreat away from the enemy while shooting at them. In the end all I got was 3 Kill Pts and my opponent got 9 Kill Pts.
Machine of The Game: The 2 Golems (Daemon Princes: Between the pair of them they were able to kill Kag’rath) Result: Major Lost
Third Round: Vs Eldar Seize Ground / Pitched Battle I was facing 2 Seer Councils on jetbikes and I had seen how annoying these squads are, in the first two turns they when straight for the Horrors and annihilated them so that was the majority of my scoring units gone. After the 3rd Squad fell the Nurglings pounced on the jetbikes squad that had been weakened by shooting from horrors and flamers and were able to defeat the last 3 warlocks and farseer. Before contesting 2 objectives at once.
With most of my scoring units gone I then aimed to destroy his troops choices problem was they were either in two well equipped falcons or turbo boosting around the board and both my chariots were unable to do any damage to then. So on the 5th turn my plaguebearers where holding the Frodo objective so I went to contest all the objectives I even through my 3 screamers at one objective. However the game went on another turn so they were destroyed by a farseer it then went down to one single Daemon Prince surviving a onslaught from a full seer council and he succeeded surviving on one turn he was able to hold off the elder to the last turn.
Machine of the Game: The Golem (Daemon Prince) Result: Draw
My Final Ranking Was 24th out of 50.
_________________ My 4 Unique Armies The Noble Zanatorians: Big Mek Award @ Open War XII & Best Army @ Summer War 09 The Bizzare Grot Rebellion: Best Army Open War IX The Insidious Darkmakers: 18th @ Open War X The Kroggs: On The Drawing Board
Last edited by Proiteus on Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Darryl Steventon
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:02 pm |
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Well, I must admit I'm a little surprised!
We accepted on Saturday as soon as Mike pointed it out, that we had omitted his painting score and amended it there and then - taking Mike to 4th place. He seemed happy enough! As with Mike, if any entrant had a query, we would have looked at it there and then.
I thoroughly object to the allegation that we 'diddled' anyone out of scores - just for reference, there were 20 points available for standard painting (WYSIWYG / Based etc..) and a further 5 'discretionary' points awarded by the judges at lunch time (yup, a couple of us didn't eat to do this!). Where this was made difficult is the same every time - people don't leave their ticket number with their army, and with over 120 army to get round, we can't be checking for numbers every other table!
We also had an issue with entrants not putting their correct number on the results slips at the end of each game - to such an extent I asked several times on the last game for names as well to ensure the correct score was awarded to each player!
Overall, the feedback for OW has been positive, with the negative comments in the minority. I'm sorry if you feel that you were unfairly treated, but this just wasn't the case.
We like to see you guys at OW, and it would be a shame for you not to be there - especially as you are now so close to Flame On! and ourselves in winning the Team Trophy - it's nice to have a three horse race ( on this note - even with Mikes extra points, your score was still only enough to come third - by 2.5 points!).
Hopefully I've settled a few worries, and I look forward to seeing you in May 2010.
Also, Congratulations to Adam for winning the 'Mad Doc' conversion award, a fitting prize. Adam did indeed tell us that he had a small amount of help, in order to avoid the unpleasentness caused last time by an erroneous allegation! The look on Adam's face when he didn't win Best Army without realising we had a new award was priceless!
We also managed to raise £200 for Macmillan Cancer - so thanks for your help on that!
Cheers,
Darryl Steventon, MC - Open War 12.
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Proiteus
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:16 pm |
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Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:28 am Posts: 368 Location: Lincoln
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Yeah that was funny lol. Also guys Warhammer world just got back to me they want both my Mechanicus and Grot Rebellion Armies to put on display on feb and march next year. 
_________________ My 4 Unique Armies The Noble Zanatorians: Big Mek Award @ Open War XII & Best Army @ Summer War 09 The Bizzare Grot Rebellion: Best Army Open War IX The Insidious Darkmakers: 18th @ Open War X The Kroggs: On The Drawing Board
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:23 pm |
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Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:09 am Posts: 953
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I don't think anything was meant by the word 'diddled'.
Personally, I fully enjoyed Open War, and I will be at the next one, and will be drumming up support from the club.
However, making you aware of these points helps to avoid them happening again.
_________________ He's a semi aquatic, egg laying mammal of action.
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Darryl Steventon
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:38 pm |
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So apart from the definition being: did⋅dle1 /ˈdɪdl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [did-l] Show IPA Use diddled in a Sentence –verb (used with object), -dled, -dling. Informal. to cheat; swindle; hoax. Which is pretty strong libellous language, what exactly was the problem? We had 160 entrants, with one omission which was corrected on the spot - so in this case why does Pete feel the need to denigrate a tournament he didn't even attend? I don't want to carry on an arguement, but it was my wife and I who entered the scores so I feel a more than a little aggreived at the comments here! EDIT - I've just spoken to Julie about this as she did the lions share of the entering of the scores - her exact comment is: 'If Pericolus thinks we do such a bad job, how about he (or another Gobtsykian) comes and verifies the damn things? 
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Lee
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:39 pm |
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When I went to it back in May I enjoyed it too and had no issues, it's just those tickets sell out so damned fast! Maybe some more 40K tickets would be good  Thanks, Lee
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Periculosus
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:31 pm |
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Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:01 pm Posts: 995 Location: Sheffield
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OK. Thanks for running the event. It is time consuming and thankless, and easy to get wrong.
I'll help with the scoring next time if you like.
As I know from other events it is often hard to keep up to date.
Let me know when it is, and I'll try and keep the diary free.
And if members come back from a tournament saying they were diddled points and didn't get the right position, then I will question if you had enough people on the event team. However hard you worked (and hard work it is) if you have not got enough bodies to check things then you need a bigger team. If you do need more help, I'll help; but if that comment is meant to make me feel guilty rather than a sincere call for help...
_________________ WFB: Dark Elves, Empire, High Elves, Chaos Mortals, Lizardmen, Orcs&Goblins, Skaven and Vampire Counts.
40K: Marines (Blood Drinkers, Mentors) Orks, Eldar, Tau and Chaos Marines.
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bubbachop
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Post subject: Re: Open War Results Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:42 pm |
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Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:43 pm Posts: 208
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It was a good tournament. An absolute bargain and an excellent experience.
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