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englishdemon · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: Empire list

i have been toying with an empire list and thought i would get some feedback

i want it themed but also i want it balanced and fun to play with.

Wizard Lord, Level 4
Luck stone
Holy relic
Van Horsemans Specs
On a horsey

Captain with battle standard
banner of sigsmaund
horsey and FPA

8 knights with full command

Captain, FPA, and horsey
Sword of justice
Doomfire ring

9 knights full command

Level 2 Wizard
2x scrolls

Free Company x 14
Musician

10 Handgunners
champion with long rifle

detachment of halbardiers

2 lots of 5 outriders
champions with long rifles
and barded horseys

cannon

mortar

hellfire cannon

any suggestions? i'm not really a big fan of big units (as people can tell!) but i thought it had a good mix of shooting, magic and fighting

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Periculosus · Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:08 am Post subject:

Those are very big units of knights.

I'm not a fan of 10 strong cavalry to get a single rank bonus. It is much better to be 7 wide and have a couple of extra attacks for a significantly fewer number of points.

As it stands you are either wasting knight models in the second rank, or having units so wide they are either unweildy or be unable to get in combat.

I am also having difficulty seeing how you will be defending those precious wizards.

You have a good balance of shooting and magic, but your close combat phase may let you down.

Drop a few knights and get your self a decent infantry unit with a proper detachment backup. It is what the Empire do best.

bubbachop · Gobbo Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 69

I agree.

Get yourself some lovely swordsmen or greatswords.

Also why buy 5 knights when you can have a standard.

Gareth · Orc Boy Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 101

Drop the scrolls and get the rod of power instead. Much more useful and much more fun! Razz

Drop the barding on the outriders. A 4+ save means they lose fast cavalry status and thus the very important 360 LoS for shooting which is important to them having move or fire weapons.

Gareth

Iskard Lustviper · Orc Boy Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 137

Even with gynaecological implements, L4 Wizards shouldn't be put where they're going to be fighting.

englishdemon · Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject:

the whole point of that was to try and sucker a lord or hero to challenge him! and get a shock! and i'm too used to mages that can fight! i keep forgetting that the empire is full of big girls in dresses!

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Periculosus · Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject:

You will not fool many experienced players into challenging a mage lord in a Empire army.

Cheers,

Pete